and, frankly, what i'm talking, we're talking about affirmative action in higher education. we are talking about the desegregation of elitism. that's what we are really talking about. the elite sector. is racial affirmative action going to be something that's going to substantially affect poor racial minorities? answer, no. it's not. because, in fact, to take advantage of affirmative action to already have to have been doing pretty good. i mean, to take advantage of affirmative action in higher education, you had to been a pretty good student to even be in the running. so we are going to need to supplement racial affirmative action. i mean, just because it doesn't do everything, don't get rid of it. don't say it doesn't do everything, therefore, throw it away. no. it is a relatively, it's my view, a modest intervention. it helps some sectors of historically disadvantaged groups, but we need other things to address other sorts of inequalities in american life. and it should not be forgotten at all that there are millions and millions and millions of poor white people in the u